and thank you for joining us. maria will be back next talking about retirement strategies and how to make smart decisions in good times and bad. if you have questions on retirement you want our experts to answer, e-mail us at maria@wsjreport.com. thank you for joining us where wall street meets main street. i'm bill griffeth. thank you. ♪ [ theme music ] >> tim: in 1979, my guest passed the bar exam. so what did he ? he became a baseball manager. and a surprising st. louis cardinals became his second world series team. by the way, did i mention that the other four managers with law degrees became hall of famers? it is my pleasure to welcome the manager of the st. louis cardinals, tony la russ >> how are you doing? >> tim: does it bother you a little bit that i refer to them as the surprising st. louis cardinals? it didn't surprise you, did it? >> i learned about the postseason, painfully learned. because we had been the one seed or the two seed. if you're good enough to get into october you're good enough to win